The Oregon Trucking Association opposes a state cap-and-trade bill to limit emissions from polluting industries. But Keith Wilson, the president of Titan Freight Systems, says regulation is necessary to accelerate the transition to clean fuel vehicles.
Keith Wilson is an outlier. In an industry that generally eschews regulatory solutions to the problem of greenhouse gas emissions, the president of Portland-based Titan Freight Systems is lobbying for a state bill that would put a price on carbon, likely raising fuel costs by around 15 cents per gallon.
The bill is hugely controversial in Oregon, where more than 1,000 people last week joined a trucking convoy and rally in the state capital protesting the climate legislation.
Wilson, by contrast, spoke at a rally earlier this week sponsored by an Oregon business group that advocates for climate change legislation.
FreightWaves talked to Wilson about why he supports the bill, the trucking industry’s general aversion to change and how society devalues carbon by giving it away for free. (Interview excerpts have been edited for length and clarity.)
FW: How does a cap-and-trade system fit into the Titan business model?
K.W.: We use technology as an enabler, a differentiator, which really leads to electric trucks and how we can lower the cost of ownership of this equipment.
Here’s an example: A few years ago our accident rate started to spike. Our damage costs tripled. So we added an AI camera safety system in January of last year. When the driver picks up the phone and starts texting, the AI sends an alert with a video and then lowers their safety score. We pay bonuses based on safety score, so the drivers never pick up phones anymore.
The result was zero accidents last year. So we need to get the word out to society that all these fatalities can be addressed.
We need to do the same with cap and trade. Technology is not something that our industry has generally grasped as a cutting-edge, first-mover approach. We’re still using this 100-year-old technology when we really need to change our core approach.
FW: Why is industry reluctant to embrace a new approach?
KW: In our business we try to hold on to old tech and old ways, not recognizing that something’s got to change. If there is not a cost to carbon, they’re not going to value it. Every time you give something away for free it’s abused. Right now we allow companies to emit carbon for free and so it’s abused.
FW: What about the argument that private-sector innovation will solve the greenhouse gas emissions problem without intervention from government?
KW: The issue is electric trucks will be extremely expensive. When this legislation takes effect in 2022, the equipment might be $200,000 per unit. My industry will say, “Why do I want to go from a $120K unit to $200K unit?” But if we can get cap-and-trade credits, if we can get public-private partnerships and move that truck from $200K down to $150K and my total cost of ownership can be within 18 months, they’ll do the math. They’ll start shifting over.
FW: The bill’s opponents say the hike in fuel prices will make it difficult to stay in business.
K.W.: Look, it will be like 15 cents per gallon of diesel. Fuel represents 10% of my overall expenses, so if I have a 3% increase in fuel and it only represents 10% of a line item, it’s not enough to be that alarmed with. It’s immaterial. And our customers have committed to helping us.
FW: Have you always been open to the idea of pricing carbon?
K.W.: We’ve always been open to the idea of trying to reduce carbon as much as we can. It’s one of our six critical vision items. In the last decade, our goal was to get to 7.5 miles per gallon. We didn’t meet that goal. We got to 7.2. All the changes we tried to do to the trucks, all the money we spent, and we barely moved the miles per gallon.
So we see cap and trade as that opportunity to stop measuring miles per gallon and start measuring in carbon reduction. Because when we measure our environmental stewardship in miles per gallon, it understands that we use fossil fuel. We’re trying to change that.
FW: Your stance puts you at odds with the Oregon Trucking Association, which opposes the bill.
K.W.: Jana Jarvis [OTA’s executive director] knows we have to address climate change. Her concern is there are no applications today. It’s the usual chicken or egg. They say: Electric trucks are years away. I say no, it’s not. I’ve visited the CARB pilot projects in California, and we’re within a year of having an application.
FW: On the topic of climate change, how do you change hearts and minds?
K.W.: Forty percent of the population still believes climate change is a hoax or due to natural causes. Or they just don’t know about it. Our industry, they’re good people. They are very caring and I respect their opinions. But it takes time to change people.
We have to value carbon. Once you value it, my industry is so resourceful, so smart, so hard-working, I guarantee they will find a way to reduce it.
Douglas B Edwards
Mega companies want to make it more difficult for owner operators every chance they get.
Mohamed zakir Hussein
This is very stupid it sounds like a politician full with lies . This is what happens when you’re trucking company can make money you find a way how to steal it from other people. I hope no one support his base there’s more pollution in the airplane on rocket In one single day than a truck due in 10 years
D
Why not buy the equipment that you think the industry needs?be the leader, or ginny pig & test your fleet with it instead of punishing your entire state
VULTURE
regulations, all regulations fill one and only one need. the need to destroy competition. as John D. Rockefeller said, competition is a sin. cap and trade, just like D.E.F. trucks and e-logs, just another nail in the coffin of the small fleet and Owner Operator. The big’s, or the terrible twelve i call them, swift, england, crst, marten and the rest love regulations. they have the money to bribe, i mean lobby congress to sell out the little guy.
Eric
Thanks for the info…now I know to never look at Titan as a potential employer
J uan contre
Have they thought about how to go when comes to recycling the batteries of trucks cause theres going to be a lot of waste created from used batteries that can’t be reused because some will be broken or can’t be renovated were are they going to put the acid liquid or cell cartridges from the used batteries can’t just throw it on the garbage or down the drainpipe all sounds good but at the end off the day the ones that will suffer will be the younger generation, they better have a plan in place cause they allready have too much waste outhere that needs proper recycling to avoid disaster in the future.
James DeLap
Hey “KW” Why not a nuclear power grid based on thorium?
Can’t make bombs with thorium. . .
CLEAN, CHEAP, AVAILABLE. . .Nuclear energy AS EVERYBODY KNOWS is the honest solution to “climate change”.
Why not? BECAUSE no money in energy FOR ALL. . .
Noble1 suggests SMART truck drivers should UNITE & collectively cut out the middlemen from picking truck driver pockets ! IMHO
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GOOGLE AGAIN !
Nuclear Power Is Not Clean or Green!
The 7 reasons why nuclear energy is not the answer to solve climate change
10 Reasons to Oppose Nuclear Energy
Nuclear Energy is Dirty Energy – NIRS.org
Chris
No educated person in transportation will ever support more taxes or increases in fuel or equipment cost. Trucking organizations are going under monthly due to these regulations and increased costs.
Quit pushing moronic REGs, we know it’s rigged.